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Hi Audrey, it's not the landowners wishes. it is against the law here in Canada to approach an active nest so if a rescue was required it would take lengthy paperwork to process with the government to get approval to approach the nest. It also puts the healthy chick at risk to have people approaching a nest because someone could startle one or both of them into falling.

At this point we watch and hope everything will right itself with our precious baby.

Maybe so, but as indicated in JudyB's post below there's more to it than that.

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Hi suzcues, and thanks for your thoughts.

Three things come to mind -

First, my understanding is that this nest is in a residential neighborhood bordering on agricultural land, so there is nowhere nearby that I'm aware of with the sort of public access that exists at Patricia Bay, near the Sidney nest. Our agreement with the people who host the camera and the rest of our equipment is that we will do our viewing over the internet and not try to visit the site for a closer look - everything Richard Pitt wrote last summer (forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=262496) is still valid today - if the folks who live there feel that the cam is causing a disruption in the neighborhood, they'll turn off the cam.

Second, while there has been a tradition among some First Nation/Native American peoples of giving back to the eagles, this is not something we discuss or advocate here, in part because leaving fish heads lying around could be considered littering or creating a nuisance if it attracted other animals or neighborhood pets, and in part because not everyone has the best interest of the eagles at heart, and discussing where eagles come to feed could put them at risk.

Third, while some days there is less food than other days, I have seen nothing to suggest that these eaglets are at risk. This pair did a fine job last year, and I expect they'll do just fine again this year. We have a great team observing the nest, and we have experts to consult with if our experienced observers are seeing a problem - as we are doing now with Goldwing.

I do thank you all for your support, and your concern - and apologize for using your post, suzcues, as a starting point for responding to a number of related questions and comments over the last few days.

And like everyone else, I do hope we see a couple of good meals before long.

Excuse me but this is not the Sidney nest this is the Delta2 nest and it is situated on the mainland of British Columbia near the Tsawwassen Ferry not Vancouver Island as stated..... if anyone reads this and doesn't know the area or where the nest is located they will be all off track. Heres a little history of this nest....

"About the Delta 2 site – near the Tsawwassen Ferry.

This was originally a red tail hawk nest, rebuilt by bald eagles in 1998-99. Then when the eagle nest was disturbed by somone climbing the tree, it was abandoned. The adult eagles moved, to be the first local pair to nest on a nearby high tension power line tower. The red tails re-occupied the site for a couple of years until they were attacked by the eagles which have, as of the 2010 season, again rebuilt the nest and produced two young that season.

This is a super large tree with strong branches and should serve as a nest for many years to come. We had installed two cams in 2006 but, when no red tails or eagles used the nest in 2007 or 2008, we removed the cams for placement in the Delta OWL bald eagle nest. Autumn 2010, at season end, we again installed two cameras. One of the cameras, the controllable one (PTZ), has subsequently lost its control interface, likely due to some poor weather we had recently, and is aimed poorly. The other however is aimed directly at the nest and we present this camera to you for your nest watching pleasure."

date and time on scapes
both Lets are sleeping
one Let sleeping... 1 Let preening or standing up
Lets up and down they seem like they are hungry...I have taken a scape of one of them eating the plastic for evidence.... one is pecking at the plastic bag trying to eat it

This is where my problem comes into affect the poor eaglets having to eat that plastic...it is sooooo bad for them they probably have plastic entwined in their crops and throats argh no wonder they are sick and lifeless.

Excuse ME, but JudyB's comments were posted within THIS thread, the Delta2 discussion. Hancock Wildlife Foundation also posted a link on their Facebook wall that when clicked it takes you directly to JudyB's post and this is their exact quote "As we are all concerned about Delta2 nest for the last of couple days, come to talk to us at the forum and read what is being said there about our sick little one." So MAYBE that's where the confusion lies.

6:01 pm
I am on my dinner break at work and just got off the phone with Bev Day at OWL, who happens to be one of the busiest people I know.

She tells me that she has been inundated with phone calls and emails from people wanting her to "rescue Goldwing".
As the Admins here at HWF have been telling everyone, and what Bev wants everyone to realize, is that by Canadian law, she cannot go taking an eaglet off the nest. PERIOD ! And she will not be doing that.

Bev and I are in contact daily so that I can give her our observed updates on GW and she then tells me if what we are seeing is normal behavior or not. She, and her staff at OWL, also watch our camera so they are very aware of what is going on.
At this point Bev said to keep watch on the eaglets eyes. A healthy eaglet will have bright eyes and from what she has observed today GW does. We will try to do close up shots as often as possible to keep GW under observation. It is the most we can do at this point.

If/when an eaglet falls from the nest OWL does have permission from the landowners to access their property for a rescue but they will not go onto the property willy nilly.
We do not want anyone falling from the nest and especially not this early because neither eaglet has the wing control to make a safe landing.

Bev's advice to everyone is to please come to our HWF forum for updates from her and not email or phone her.

I don't have time this evening, but tomorrow if GW is not improving I will begin a separate thread for all updates so that they are all in one place.

In the meantime, please keep an eye on GW and Linux and wish them well.

Now I must really get back to work.

And also JUDY of judyandgary...no where within JudyB's comments did she insinuate she was discussing the Sidney nest, she referred to it's access in comparison.

Maybe you should reread her original post?

6:16 Well, it has been a long day so I am heading for bed. Unfortunately, looks like I will miss tonight's feed and hope there is one. GW seems to be a bit better this evening Always thankful when he does not hang his head.

Take care of each other GW and Linux and be well soon, GW.




Goodnight everyone

I've already talked to both JudyB and Bev of O.W.L. by e mail the other day and they borth know my feelings on the matter as I have been a member of HWF since 2006 and participate in Fledgefest and thread discussions and always express my opinions. The concern right now is the well being of these two eaglets on Delta2 nest and my main concern is them eating that plastic on the nest and my opinion is that eating the platic will hurt them. I'm not trying to be a trouble maker as everyone who knows me and everyone does, knows I'm an eagle lover and always have been.
look at these babys they are not feeling good they are both hanging their heads

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6:16 Well, it has been a long day so I am heading for bed. Unfortunately, looks like I will miss tonight's feed and hope there is one. GW seems to be a bit better this evening Always thankful when he does not hang his head.

Take care of each other GW and Linux and be well soon, GW.




Goodnight everyone

raining sleep well

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6:16 Well, it has been a long day so I am heading for bed. Unfortunately, looks like I will miss tonight's feed and hope there is one. GW seems to be a bit better this evening Always thankful when he does not hang his head.

Take care of each other GW and Linux and be well soon, GW.




Goodnight everyone

Good night Raining! You did lots of great scaps today.

I think GW will be okay. Definitely improved from . .. Monday I think it was. These 'lets seem to have different posturing then 'lets from other nests.

elfjune